Hot on the heels of NYCC, we’ve gotten word from our inside sources that THOR: RAGNAROK will see Chris Hemsworth’s Thor team up with none other than Mark Ruffalo’s HULK for the Odinson’s third solo film, which finds the God of Thunder facing what amounts to the Norse Apocalypse. Only this time out he’ll have some help from a fellow Avenger.
Report: Mark Ruffalo’s Hulk will return in ‘Thor: Ragnarok’
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so antman and the wasp and now thor and the hulk… is that team up thing a new staple in marvel films?
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I recently read Thor: Ragnarok. I have NO single solitary idea how they can turn that into a movie that anybody will understand or enjoy unless they just completely make it something else with the same title.
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I think Natalie Portman lost some interest in Thor when they fired Patty Jenkins from directing Thor 2: The Dark World. From the sounds of it Patty Jenkins is good but she was going into it unclear, which makes sense with so many things to look at. I think with timing that Thor 2: The Dark World wasn’t going to be nearly as good as the sequels after it, and that Patty Jenkins would be limited too much by the timing. As fate would have it she got a better deal by joining with Warner Brothers DC to direct the Wonder Woman movies. If she directed Thor 2: The Dark World with the limitations she or any director had, it could have blunted her career in the long run. I can’t say yet but she could get into a lot of the deeper story elements that I can see other directors and writers not properly putting into either a Thor movie, or a Wonder Woman movie. Thor should become significantly better with Thor 3: Ragnarok and after. Thor should be one of the best superhero series of movies. Patty Jenkins gets to direct a female character that’s one of the lead superheroes of DC. Marvel movie’s most popular will be Iron Man and Spiderman. DC movie’s most popular will be Superman and Batman. Marvel movie’s most popular female title would be Captain Marvel Carol Danvers, and DC movie’s most popular female title would be Wonder Woman. With the limitations of Thor 2, if she did direct it then she might have been taken off of future Marvel movies because it didn’t stand out enough and had a lot of limitations with timing. Marvel Studios was concerned of Natalie Portman after her contract with Marvel Studios is up if she would continue as Jane Foster or quit the role, and how far they should develop into her character Jane Foster for screen time. I personally think that Jane Foster isn’t planned out that well even if they had long term future plans with her, and there’s too many holes to her character. While I thought her character as female Thor is cool, I felt it has too many holes in it and would overall weaken canon too much, because Jane Foster’s character hasn’t shown the attributes to wield the hammer and it would weaken canon way too much. Valkyrie being able to wield Thor’s hammer makes sense. I don’t know if Patty Jenkins would, but I think she would have also tried to use some mythology in there and more comic canon getting more into it’s depth, which I think she’ll get into that with Wonder Woman now with Olympian mythology because Wonder Wonder is a 100% Greek Goddess, but her highest Goddess abilities aren’t activated. For Wonder Woman’s strength levels without her bracelets on you’d think she’s at her highest, but she’s nowhere near. The flaw with having those higher abilities activated is she may not be allowed to take the type of action she can without it activated, and so it’s not necessary for what she’s learning in the affairs she involves in. It could plateau all of the other types of learning she’s having. At her current strength level she can take on Supergirl without her bracelets on, and she’s currently the God of War while Ares is most likely temporarily retired from that role but he’s had it for so long, why not share it with someone. But why would Wonder Woman want to be God of War forever when she likes to go and try different things. Ares probably has it planned to be given it back whether it’s in centuries or millenniums, which isn’t that much time for his much longer lifespan. She might have tried to get deeper into the canon story with movie Thor, and that could be true for canon story with Wonder Woman. I don’t know how to compare Thor’s Norse mythology with the real life history of his superhuman race. In history Thor and his superhuman race really existed, and if the ancient historical texts are properly comprehended how much of it is true and what does it mean, or of which texts with more truth in them what truths do they tell.
Thor could use the power house Hulk to aid in Thor’s conflicts. Thor needs as many super powered allies as he can get to take on the big challenges that are coming to Asgard such as Hela, Laufey, Loki and Amora the Enchantress, Mangog, Blackheart, Mephisto, Thanos, Ragnarok, and Surtur to name a few. This movie is about the Ragnarok event, not the cloned cyborg Ragnarok they can build into later when getting into Tony Stark’s alliance with Norman Osborn (Norman Osborn buys out HAMMER and Tony Stark shares his Iron Man technology with Norman Osborn), and how Norman Osborn fools Tony Stark before Tony Stark co-creates Illuminati, Tony Stark goes to war with Asgard with the manipulation of Norman Osborn who joins in the war against Asgard. Another great ally to Thor is Beta Ray Bill. Thor can battle much longer than the current Hulk, but Hulk is really good at hitting hard to go directly at the target which is what Thor needs in such major conflicts. Thor has his Asgardian team. Valkyrie can be of great assistance to Thor, who’s as worthy as Thor to wield Thor’s hammer as is Beta Ray Bill. What has Jane Foster done to show she’s worthy of wielding the hammer? In the original stories she couldn’t prove she was worthy to maintain the Asgardian Goddess abilities given to her in the trials Odin gave to her. Bruce Banner is far more intelligent than Jane Foster, and Selvig is the one with most of the thinking in the team with Jane Foster. She’s been an assistant to him. Amadeus Cho and Peter Parker are also far more intelligent than Jane Foster. Amadeus Cho and Bruce Banner are about at the same intellect level, but Amadeus Cho is so multi skilled at such a young age. Bruce Banner is said to be the 9th most intelligent mortal in the world, and Amadeus Cho is said to be the 8th most intelligent mortal in the world. Bruce Banner argues that he’s the 8th most intelligent mortal in the world. To be able to wield the hammer someone needs to be very seasoned, wise, knowledgeable, and who can be a great king or queen. Jane Foster hasn’t been put to the test in any of that, and it hasn’t shown her decision making. But when she came into the story, Asgard began to fall apart and the entire Universe almost got destroyed, so nothing has shown of her yet. Thor is able to get much more powerful in the comics with warrior madness, but he would have to hold that back with Jane Foster around. If Jane Foster did get those abilities she would still be significantly physically weaker than Thor and Valkyrie, because Jane Foster just has mortal genetics while she hasn’t trained for nearly as long as they have. Vision was different because he has the mind Infinity gem attached to him, and he also has the memories and experience when he was the JARVIS consciousness. Now Vision is a dual consciousness with JARVIS, but they’re now two different personalities. Vision has a lot of expert pre-programming to him, and has highly advanced processing abilities to have that worthiness. He has experience as the clocked in memory of JARVIS when assisting Tony Stark and the Iron Man armors, before he became Vision. Vision has a lot of downloaded information in him, and he has excellent programming in his skills and protocols. Vision’s primary 3 creators in the movies would be Tony Stark, Dr. Helen Cho, and Ultron. Tony Stark made the JARVIS portion, Dr. Helen Cho made the Vision body and enhanced consciousness, and Ultron assisted in the process where they may have also used information from Tony Stark’s computer database when Ultron first manifested and subdued the JARVIS consciousness (the version of JARVIS that becomes Vision). Ultron could have uploaded that information with the instruction that Dr. Helen Cho used when creating Vision, with Ultron’s additional input and self instruction. When Vision was set to come to life the JARVIS consciousness was uploaded into Vision. A consciousness needed to be entered into Vision for Vision to have life, and originally Ultron planned for his own consciousness to go into Vision.
This is great. Hulk is being put to great use. He hasn’t come close to his real potential strength yet. He could have max out put, but he can develop to lasting much longer and having more overall self control and leverage. 1000 tons is about his top level strength overall in the comics, except in the rare occasions when his strength level can go much higher but there had to be other individuals around to temporarily unlock that power, and there’s a reason it’s not used that often. When Hulk can average 1000 tons when highly enraged, he can go higher than that in brief periods in battle, but in rare situations he has averaged much higher strength levels of up to 1 million tons or more. With I think 1000 tons strength Hulk has been able to demolish an entire city while defeating several teams as old power Mystic Professor Hulk with his team Warbound. Hulk in the movies is much weaker in most cases than his best, except for when he falls long distances that happened three times so far, and he’s significantly stronger temporarily when this happens such as in the first movie against Abomination, in the second movie when he returns for the battle against the Chitauri, and the third time when Black Widow pushed him down a cliff because she looked at the research and that’s the way for Hulk to have a lot more control and power to go against Ultron and his forces. Bruce Banner has his Hulk stages. First there was the more animal Green Hulk and more basic Grey Hulk when he first went to those forms. Green Hulk matured into Savage Green Hulk, and Grey Hulk matured into Joe Fixit. When those two personalities combine they’re Gravage Hulk, and they’re a lot more powerful when they’re merged with Bruce Banner as Professor Hulk. The next stage is old power Mystic Professor Hulk, and then he uses scientific enhancements as Doc Green to better sustain such a level. The original animal Hulk and basic Green Hulk would lift less than 70 tons, but when Bruce Banner falls down a cliff those forms are significantly stronger. Savage Green Hulk can lift 90 tons, and Joe Fixit can lift 70 tons both in an emotionally calm state. Gravage Hulk can normally lift in excess to 100 tons as can Thor. Professor Hulk’s baseline is in excess to 100 tons while when he’s highly enraged it’s 500 tons to 1000 tons. Joe Fixit and Savage Green Hulk can also get up to 500 tons when they’re highly enraged. Old power mystic Professor Hulk and Doc Green have a baseline of 250 tons but when highly enraged can get up to 1000 tons where they can maintain that for a very long period of time. In the battle of Thor and Hulk in the first Avengers movie, Hulk was enraged and had the strength level to lift 250 tons in that battle with a max output of 500 tons. When Hulk fell down from the flight craft, he could access a lot more strength temporarily for that day to get to the strength level of 500 tons to 1000 tons and over when he gets highly enraged. In Avengers 2: Age of Ultron, Tony Stark’s Hulk Buster Mark II Iron Man armor was matched at 500 tons like the mind controlled Hulk, and Hulk didn’t get to his greater strength level until after falling down a cliff again for the final battle against Ultron’s forces. Thor normally can lift 125 tons, but that hammer is what adds a lot to his combat. He fights at this a lot so that he can develop better skill. With the strength belt he can double his strength to 250 tons. Without the strength belt at warrior madness he can lift at 500 tons. With the strength belt and warrior madness he can lift 1000 tons. Thor hasn’t liked to use warrior madness because it makes him very hot headed, but he learns to control it better when he takes more leadership in a lot of the wars waged against Asgard. With going through the Asgardian King trials to pluck out both of his eyes to gain Thorforce he can ramp up his strength a lot more but he doesn’t like to use his magical energy that often unlike his dad, because he doesn’t want to develop a dependence on it and he wants to use strategy without that level of strength. That’s because he goes into a lot more wars than his father, and his father had to put off wars because he would use too much Odinforce and go into Odinsleep a lot more often that leaves his defenses down while he can’t run the kingdom during that period. Thor can use the magical abilities of the 12 runes at varying levels with his Thorforce. Thor is an excellent general and war strategist, and he makes a very good king in such crucial times. What’s good about him going to war a lot more often is that he can keep his forces better conditioned to lower casualties, and it helps to develop ties with the neighboring realms where Odin kept Asgard too separate always on the defensive that caused more wars in the long run where Thor needs to clean that up by warring a lot more. When Thor plucks out both of his eyes he can see with echolocation and with his invisible third eye, that’s visible as a higher energy beyond the visible portion of the electro-magnetic spectrum of most mortals. He can remanifest his eyes after combat, which Odin doesn’t know how to do which is why he only plucked out one of his eyes when going through the Asgardian King trials to become King, which is also what Thor will perform to gain Thorforce. Beta Ray Bill makes a good combatant with Thor. Beta Ray Bill is a genetically enhanced king specially created by his endangered race. He fights very good to where he earned from Odin a hammer made of enchanted uru, and he was able to wield Thor’s hammer as a very wise and intelligent king of his endangered race. It’s good that Bruce Banner gets into Asgardian and Olympian conflicts that’s a big part of his developing into the Hulk identity, such as also with Apocalypse (as Horseman War temporarily) and Sakaar but also leads into a very chaotic future when it develops into Apocalyptic and post Apocalyptic times in the 2040s (Old Man Logan) to 2060s (Future Imperfect with the region he rules Dystopia as Maestro who’s merged of Joe Fixit, Savage Hulk, Devil Hulk, and Bruce Banner.), and he does time travel to 2099. Thor is also half elder Earth Eternal because his real mother is the elder Earth Eternal Gaea, which makes his base strength much higher than all of the other Asgardians including Odin’s base strength and base magic (non-Odinforce), and Frigga’s base strength and base magic. Loki has a high level of strength with his Frost Giant parent Laufey, but because Loki isn’t as powerful as Thor at base strength, Loki is very tricky with his plans with magic, science, artifacts, and his alliances such as with Amora the Enchantress. If Loki learned ramping up his magic power he would probably be about half as powerful as Laufey because only half of Loki’s genetics are the same as Laufey. Laufey is far more powerful than most of the other Frost Giants, except for Ymir. Thor doesn’t have his elder Earth Eternal powers activated, but if he did it would set him too far apart from his culture. It is noticeable that his base power and base magic are significantly higher than the other Asgardians including Odin. Thor primarily has three lovers who are each significant at different times, he only has one lover at a time, and those are Sif, Jane Foster, and Valkyrie. Valkyrie is the greatest fighter and leader with the best qualities to be queen. Sif is best for traversing the land to represent all classes. Jane Foster is good with her freedom with scientific exploration, her scientific team she’s apart of, and her link with Earth culture while she also has a great interest in learning the Asgardian culture. She’s overconfident and lacks the long term fighting will, lacks the solid planning, and lacks the ability to sustain being a queen. That’s where those three lovers of Thor have their individual importance. The original canon Jane Foster cannot wield Thor’s hammer. Of Thor’s three lovers, only Valkyrie can wield Thor’s hammer. Beyonder has said Hulk’s gamma potential is Infinite, but only with the level of access to his mind can Bruce Banner tap into different percentages of the gamma power. In 1984’s Secret Wars, Professor Charles Xavier unlocked Hulk’s mind temporarily for Hulk to hold an entire mountain for a long period of time that Molecule Man dropped on him. Mountains exceed over 1 million tons. Professor Charles Xavier remote viewed into Hulk’s mind, without Hulk knowing. Charles Xavier wasn’t physically at that site when it happened, he was elsewhere on Battleworld and he can remote view and remote time travel to far distances. Another time Jean Grey unlocked the continuous rage for the Hulk mind of Bruce Banner in a blank state for him to take on Phase II Onslaught, Phase II Onslaught can destroy suns, and he can also take out all humans and superhumans on Earth in the same day. Hulk destroyed Phase II Onslaught, and then Onslaught became non-physical in Phase III. That’s why in Marvel comics, Hulk was jettisoned in outerspace because of the potential threat that he could wipe out entire cities, all of the superheroes, and possibly the entire population of Earth. Hulk needed to learn better adaptation to his abilities and his mind that he could with the constant conditioning on Planet Sakaar, but those that jettisoned him didn’t know he would end up at Sakaar. Hulk had struck certain relationships and alliances with superhumans, and so they most likely invisibly guided him to Sakaar instead of it being by chance.
In Norse mythology, largely recorded in Iceland from traditional material stemming from Scandinavia, numerous tales and information about Thor are provided. In these sources, Thor bears at least fourteen names, is the husband of the golden-haired goddess Sif, is the lover of the jötunn Járnsaxa, and is generally described as fierce-eyed, red-haired and red-bearded. With Sif, Thor fathered the goddess (and possible valkyrie) Þrúðr; with Járnsaxa, he fathered Magni; with a mother whose name is not recorded, he fathered Móði, and he is the stepfather of the god Ullr. The same sources list Thor as the son of the god Odin and the personified earth, Fjörgyn, and by way of Odin, Thor has numerous brothers. Thor has two servants, Þjálfi and Röskva, rides in a cart or chariot pulled by two goats, Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr (that he eats and resurrects), and is ascribed three dwellings (Bilskirnir, Þrúðheimr, and Þrúðvangr). Thor wields the mountain-crushing hammer, Mjölnir, wears the belt Megingjörð and the iron gloves Járngreipr, and owns the staff Gríðarvölr. Thor’s exploits, including his relentless slaughter of his foes and fierce battles with the monstrous serpent Jörmungandr—and their foretold mutual deaths during the events of Ragnarök—are recorded throughout sources for Norse mythology.
Thor really existed over 8000 years ago and he could have had as much as a 1000 year to 1200 year lifespan potential. He was a superhuman andite who lived in Northern Europe, with a lot of violet DNA. He probably also had Ascended Mortal DNA not sure. He was atleast 10% violet and 10% Ascended Mortal, or atleast 20% violet. The Andite, violet, and Ascended Mortal DNA thinned out a lot to where at best they’ll be at 2.5% of the DNA of the modern Earth humans highest in it such as 100% Northern European Ancestry in Europe, USA, Canada, and Australia of those with blue eyes, light brown hair, blonde hair, and red hair with white skin and a slight violet hue. The longest lifespan of someone with 2.5% Andite DNA is 120 years. Moses had good genetics but I think he thinned out by the time he was born. Noah lived to 950 years and he was a superhuman who was 600 years old in 5000BC, only the Mesopotamian region flooded in 5000BC, not the world. Thor’s ancestry goes back to Adam and Eve who are 100% violets who were on Earth physically 38,000 years ago. Thor was a great war general. There was a population of 4.5 million violets in 19,000BC in Europe where they accumulated the most of any part of the world, and by that time Europe had the most violet gene inheritance in the world. From 15,000BC to 7000BC there were 7 Andite invasions that went to various lands including Europe in each invasion. By 12,000BC most violets in the world including Europe were mixed with Ascended Mortals to become andites, but of those highest in andite genes, violet traits showed the most appearance wise such as blue eyes, light brown hair, blonde hair, red hair, and white skin with a violet hue. By 12,000BC, Europe had the most violet gene inheritance, Ascended Mortal gene inheritance, and andite gene inheritance. By 1000BC most of the superhumans were thinned out to where they could no longer be considered violet or andite. A violet is someone that is atleast 20% violet (except in references in texts to 100% violets such as Adam and Eve, and their pureline offspring), an Ascended Mortal is someone that’s atleast 20% Ascended Mortal (except in references to 100% Ascended Mortals like the first 100, and the other 100 of highly skilled mortals of their free will whose’ consciousnesses were transferred into dormant Ascended Mortal bodies that were made by Avalon surgeons of a higher order solar systems away but can travel throughout the nearby parts of the galaxy), and an andite is atleast 10% violet and 10% Ascended Mortal. Adam and Eve’s direct children were Adamson, Eveson, Abel who died at a young age, and Seth. Cain was the third child but Adam wasn’t his father, Eve had a child with an Ascended Mortal (atleast 20% Ascended Mortal DNA) named Cano. She didn’t see it as being unfaithful to Adam, but she illegally chose to reproduce with another mate in order to build up diplomatic ties with neighboring regions in order move ahead on their plans for cultivation with the world. That lead to the default of Adam and Eve, and Adam had a child with an Ascended Mortal female Laotta (atleast 20% Ascended Mortal), the child’s name was Sansa as the fourth child. Abel a pureblood is the 5th child but died at a young age, and Seth a pureblood is the 6th child. Sansa and Cain were born on the same day. Cain was slightly older than Abel. Cano and Laotta both died against Adam and Eve’s will and it saddened them that they would have prevented if they could. Cano killed himself because he found out that Adam and Eve temporarily lost their mission that would bring many problems to Earth for tens of thousands of years to come leaving the world in very primitive genetic stages. Laotta died in child labor but the child was born fine. Adam and Eve cannot begin on the cultivation process again until 3100AD after the Apocalyptic periods that are about to come (which that could be called Ragnarok in Norse Mythology), and this time they will follow the rules 100% as it was the fallen archangel Caligastia’s idea for Eve to cultivate with non-violet male partners, with her violet male partner, where he suggested Adam and she preform polygamy that became a standard of superhuman descendants of violets, Ascended Mortals, and andites.
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