There was a lot of talent on the stage this afternoon but at the heart of it all was Steve Rogers and Tony Stark, a.k.a. Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr, who were sat front and centre of proceedings as they ought be. One question though was met with somewhat of a surprising answer, when Evans was asked whether if a “real-life Avengers” situation presented itself in present day. The actor said:
“Team Iron Man. There would have to be some sort of responsibility, you have to answer to somebody, you can’t just let this group of vigilantes answer to themselves. The truth is if there really were Avengers I would be Team Iron Man, I would. I mean who wouldn’t?!”
Chris Evans: “If the Avengers were real, I’d be on Team Iron Man”
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lol, nice mr. evans beautiful way to show the middle finger to all your fans who voted #team cap on twitter.
that’s 3 strikes in just one sweep: he called the avengers “a group of vigilantes”; he admitted that Cap’s ideology is crap and basically kneeled before stark, ending the fight before it even started. not bad for an all american icon.
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It does make more sense then MCU cap’s ideology of fighting for ” my Bucky”.
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You’re overreacting and coming off as incredibly butthurt
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Well, they ARE a group of vigilantes, aren’t they?
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Perhaps at this point in the MCU. What about during/after Infinity War? They would probably be seen in a much bigger light: Protectors of humanity and Earth. Lets be honest, it won’t just be the USA that is threatened during the Infinity War movies: It’s gonna be the whole damned planet! Hell, i’d even make a wager to say the entire universe is at stake in those films. But as far as Earth is concerned, the Avengers will protect it. The people of the planet will look to them as guardians against any extra-terrestrial forces. I feel like the people of New York kind of saw them as that after the first Avengers film — even though there were lots of people (damned politicians especially) that thought they were responsible for all the destruction. However, the Avengers did save the city. After Infinity War, my guess is that they will save the planet. So my opinion is that those that would say “You destroyed half our city, here’s the bill” clearly don’t appreciate their asses being saved. I would go on about how the politicians in the MCU are just as shitty as the real world ones, but i think thats a discussion for another day… sigh….
Point being: They may be seen as vigilantes now, but wait for after the Infinity War movies. They will be seen as what they truly are: heroes.
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Who said vigilantes couldn’t be heroes? They are vigilantes because they operate outside of the laws, but that doesn’t mean they are not heroic. I think the point is that even though they are heroes, they still need to have some types of countermeasure in case any of them went rogue, or to be subjected under mind control or whatever.
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You’re freaking Captain America, and you don’t even support your own character’s ideology? Wait… what?
Better root for Iron Man…. sure -_- -
Cap fans totally disagree. He must want out of the role. SAD, guessing RDJ won the storyline fight. YAWN.
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Hard to believe he takes heat for this. If you imagine the situation was real, how could you support the notion that anyone could put on a mask and answer to no one – cross any border, engage in destructive combat anywhere, break any law, with complete impunity? There’s a reason we don’t embrace vigilantes in real life, let alone vigilantes with armed forces level superpowers!
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I can’t say I “hate” him for such a statement (I keep my hate for far serious matters…) but I think that it reveals the fact he only read the script in his research and not the graphic novel. One of the best thing of Millar’s take, IMHO, was just the good balancing between the reasons carried by the two counterparts. Some readers just picked side due to their favourite characters choice, but the graphic novel pushed you to choose due to your personal ideas on such strong issues (freedom, security, etc) and the most intriguing thing to me was that first impressions could be very different from latter ones.
I remember when I first read it, I chose Team-Cap because the very first interpretation I gave to the matter was (put very simple): Team-IronMan= Rightwind security Politics; Team-Cap= Liberal Defense of Freedom Rights.
But several months later, I read some guy on a blog who gave a very different interpretation of the controversy, wich blew my mind for how diametrically opposed to mine it was: Team-Ironman= Weapon-Control; Team-Cap= free-weapon politic.
This ambiguity was one of the most strong points of the graphic novel to me, because it made choosing everything but simple.
Besides, starting a statement on such a matter with “if there really were Avengers” is wrong on a principle, because vigilantism CANNOT BE TOLERATED in real world, period.
You accept the “idea” of the Avengers (or batman, or JLA, or…….. Punisher!) because you enjoy a form of entertainment wich demand a suspension of disbelief to be accepted.
You can accept the Team-Cap “freedom” issue, because you, as a comic-book reader, know that Steve Rogers (just like Clark Kent) has no malice in his DNA, because that’s how the character has been given to you from decades, just like you also know he never misses, never makes a mistake, and so you realize “he’s better then every Governant he could be forced to account”.
But that’s fictional, and then it works only on a fictional level, because there is no man without malice, or who never misses, or never makes mistakes.
So, in “real world” it wouldn’t be a matter of “team-Cap” or “team ironman”, but just a matter of “no-supes”. -
Thats so disappointing. I feel like Team Cap is still in the right about this issue. I mean the Avengers are heroes — to hell with what corrupted politicians tell the people to think! Even in the graphic novel, they were still right. Heroes should not have to give up their identities to the public — especially ones like Spider-Man who have extremely dangerous foes who would hurt those he love — and should not have to give up their freedoms just so the people can sleep well at night and politicians can smoke their cuban cigars they lit with $100 bills.
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