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Last month Titanic, Terminator, and Avatar director James Cameron had an unpopular opinion about Wonder Woman. “She’s an objectified icon, and it’s just male Hollywood doing the same old thing! I’m not saying I didn’t like the movie but, to me, it’s a step backwards,” he said, before boasting about his own strong female characters like Sarah Connor from Terminator.

The Hollywood Reporter caught up with Cameron, who is just starting production on his Avatar sequel, to get his reaction to the backlash his Wonder Woman comments received. Cameron is standing by them and doubling down. Check out an excerpt for the interview below.

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